Gates: I don't know what you mean. We take Solaris, UNIX applications, and allow them to recompile and run on top of Windows. Name a UNIX protocol -- we support every one of those UNIX protocols. If there's something more you think can be done, tell me what it is. I mean, this is UNIX, it's not something new and different.
InformationWeek: One thing that comes to mind, it may be tangentially related, is the Microsoft Communications Protocol Program, the licensing of communications protocols for interoperability. Some people seem to think that by now there should be more licensees.
Gates: Name a corporate customer who has some interoperability thing they want from us, because we have interoperability. At every level, we're building interoperability. And so you've got to map it back to some customer [issue]. Believe me, if people thought there was some customer demand for using our protocols, they would license our protocols. The fact is, there are lots of these things out there that create the connections.
InformationWeek: It's not just an interoperability issue. There are other things like Microsoft's management tools being able to manage a heterogeneous environment -- for example, Windows and UNIX/Linux at the same time. That is something, according to our research, that your customers would like to see.
Gates: Management tools from us? It's not like there's a shortage of people who do that.